As a new player, I've sort of just been watching things go down before making judgements. I think, for the most part, I was satisfied with the initial apology. The situation is a mess, isn't going to resolved over night, and I don't really think there's any perfect resolution for this so I expected some amount of fumbling/dissatisfaction. I don't agree with everything (like making some people still do revisions for no reason out of "fairness", etc) but people have already spoken on that already so I'm going to bring up something else.
I don't think this post should be locked to only members. This isn't an issue that only impacts current players. This all started as an application issue and that involves any/all potential applicants who may or or may not be in the game. It also shouldn't matter that dropped players are chiming in considering this is why some of those players dropped.
I think it's also a bad idea to split this discussion between here and a screened mod contact page. For the latter, this is an issue that affects the players in the game too and we deserve to the discussion instead of having it screened.
I understand that there's a lot of criticism right now and that's very stressful to deal with but please understand that none of these comments (as far as I can tell) have been attacks, even if they disagree. While everyone has been firm and clear/direct with what their issues are, they've also been civil and constructive while bringing up valid points. It's not a good look to shut those voices out.
I strongly urge you to consider unlocking this post and letting comments resume for transparency's sake.
If this post is beginning to become too much, it's fair to update to say that you'll be taking a day or two to step away and reflect/process all feedback so far to figure out the next best response instead of having another knee jerk reaction like locking this post is. I'm not saying to put it off! But I'm saying it's okay to take a little bit of time if it means coming up with a better solution. (Also, if you do this, communicate it to us so we know you aren't ghosting/ignoring any sitting or later comments.)
I understand that players (current, past, potential) want accountability and answers now and I understand that the mods want to give what the people want but some of the responses so far have come off as knee-jerk reactions that aren't the most well thought out. And again, this goes back to my earlier point where this whole situation is a mess with no perfect solution so it's difficult to expect a completely satisfactory response. But this post has been up for a couple of days now and you've received a lot of feedback.
If you haven't already, I think it's time to really take everything, sit down, and reflect on what's been said. Talk with each other as a mod team and see how you've handled things here. Do you still stand by everything? Do you take anything back? What could have been done differently? What worked and what didn't? And once you've done that, I think a follow up announcement is due.
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As a new player, I've sort of just been watching things go down before making judgements. I think, for the most part, I was satisfied with the initial apology. The situation is a mess, isn't going to resolved over night, and I don't really think there's any perfect resolution for this so I expected some amount of fumbling/dissatisfaction. I don't agree with everything (like making some people still do revisions for no reason out of "fairness", etc) but people have already spoken on that already so I'm going to bring up something else.
I don't think this post should be locked to only members. This isn't an issue that only impacts current players. This all started as an application issue and that involves any/all potential applicants who may or or may not be in the game. It also shouldn't matter that dropped players are chiming in considering this is why some of those players dropped.
I think it's also a bad idea to split this discussion between here and a screened mod contact page. For the latter, this is an issue that affects the players in the game too and we deserve to the discussion instead of having it screened.
I understand that there's a lot of criticism right now and that's very stressful to deal with but please understand that none of these comments (as far as I can tell) have been attacks, even if they disagree. While everyone has been firm and clear/direct with what their issues are, they've also been civil and constructive while bringing up valid points. It's not a good look to shut those voices out.
I strongly urge you to consider unlocking this post and letting comments resume for transparency's sake.
If this post is beginning to become too much, it's fair to update to say that you'll be taking a day or two to step away and reflect/process all feedback so far to figure out the next best response instead of having another knee jerk reaction like locking this post is. I'm not saying to put it off! But I'm saying it's okay to take a little bit of time if it means coming up with a better solution. (Also, if you do this, communicate it to us so we know you aren't ghosting/ignoring any sitting or later comments.)
I understand that players (current, past, potential) want accountability and answers now and I understand that the mods want to give what the people want but some of the responses so far have come off as knee-jerk reactions that aren't the most well thought out. And again, this goes back to my earlier point where this whole situation is a mess with no perfect solution so it's difficult to expect a completely satisfactory response. But this post has been up for a couple of days now and you've received a lot of feedback.
If you haven't already, I think it's time to really take everything, sit down, and reflect on what's been said. Talk with each other as a mod team and see how you've handled things here. Do you still stand by everything? Do you take anything back? What could have been done differently? What worked and what didn't? And once you've done that, I think a follow up announcement is due.